[Gt-eos] gtk source repo location

[Oliver Keeble]

Hi all,

On 20/10/17 14:49, Baptiste Grenier wrote:
> Le 20/10/17 à 13:57, Mischa Salle téléscripta :
>> Hi Baptiste, others,
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> I think that whatever acronym we use, there probably is already a
>> library with that name around. It's mostly important to prevent clashes
>> with similar tools I think. I was wondering whether the term gsi is
>> perhaps a good option instead of globus? So gsi-toolkit? It's known, not
>> copyrighted or trademarked as far as I know, and I think most of our use
>> of the globus-toolkit that we need has somewhere todo with GSI.
> 
> I personally think that gsi and gsi-toolkit are nice names as gsi will 
> indeed mean something for a lot of people. There is already a GSI 
> organisation so for the organisation name part we need something else.
> 
> To see it "visually":
> 
> - globalgc/gsi-toolkit
> - grid-community-forum/gsi-toolkit
> - gridcf/gsi-toolkit
> - gridcommunity/gsi-toolkit
> - gridsc/gsi-toolkit
> - gridsf/gsi-toolkit
> - gsitoolkit/gsi-toolkit or gsi-toolkit/gsi-toolkit (too restricted?)
> - opengt/gsi-toolkit
> 
> Not possible:
> - gridtools/gsi-toolkit (in fact GridTools already exists)
> - opengsi/gsi-toolkit could have been nice but opengsi is already taken
> 
> Organisation name + project name might also be important/interesting for 
> SEO/ease of discovery.
> Should it contain grid or not?

GSI is just one part of the Globus toolkit, so wouldn't this be misleading?

>> There is by the way another important issue with not being able to use
>> the word globus: it's in almost every library name in the toolkit. So if
>> we want to/must remove it from there too, we need a rebuild of each
>> globus-depending software product... It also could mean having all the
>> products needing re-adoption into Fedora/EPEL and Debian.
> 
> Is it something that can be avoided?

I think it can certainly be avoided. Globus may trademark the name (have 
they?) but this just stops anyone else using it as a name, it doesn't 
stop people using the word.

Oliver.

> As the "upstream" will change one could find appropriate to have 
> different names/packages.
> At a package level usage of some provide/conflict instructions in the 
> spec/debian control files could help a bit to ease the transition.
> In theory having to rebuild all the products depending on the toolkit 
> could be acceptable as it is quite a big/important change, but yes it 
> would require more work from the product teams and it would take some 
> time to get everything updated. It would also somewhat force them to 
> acknowledge/validate the change.
> 
> Once the building scripts/files/infra will be working it shouldn't be 
> that hard to get the packages accepted in debian and EPEL. We could also 
> find a temporary solution to publish dedicated repositories (and/or to 
> provide early access to the packages).
> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Mischa
> 
> Best regards,
> Baptiste
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 01:10:49PM +0200, Baptiste Grenier wrote:
>>> Hi all,
> 
>>> I answered the poll, and added some custom propositions, if possible 
>>> I find
>>> appreciable to not have an acronym that would perhaps look cryptic:
>>> - for the organisation: gridtools or gridcommunity (we could try to 
>>> add  a
>>> dash in the name as it makes it look nicer, but it might cause  problems
>>> with some github-related tools that are a bit buggy)
>>> - for the project: open-grid-toolkit or maybe opengt if we want to 
>>> hide  the
>>> grid word as pointed out by Mischa.
> 
>>> The fact is that grid is also present in most of the propositions for 
>>> the
>>> organisation name...
> 
>>> Best,
>>> Baptiste
> 
>>> -- 
>>> Baptiste Grenier
>>> EGI Foundation - Operations Officer
>>> Phone:              +31 627 860 852
>>> Skype:         baptiste.grenier.egi
> 
> 
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