[Gt-eos] gtk source repo location

Frank Scheiner scheiner at hlrs.de
Fri Oct 20 16:09:34 CEST 2017


Hi Brian,

On 10/20/2017 03:56 PM, Brian Lin wrote:
> Frank,
> 
> Does this mean that we can keep the repository name the same (e.g. just 
> fork it in GitHub)?

That is the question. I'm no lawyer and I actually don't know if you can 
consider the repository name part of the source code. But in general, 
when you fork something on e.g. GitHub, your fork retains the repo name 
AFAIK.

I think we cannot call it "Globus Toolkit" in documentation or press 
releases or similar if we speak of our fork, though, because we don't 
own the "Globus Toolkit" trademark. So using a new toolkit name for 
"our" repo (although it contains "Globus [...]" everywhere) might 
actually help to not irritate users - instead of using our toolkit name 
and "globus-toolkit" as repo name.

UPDATE:
Brian B. has already provided examples for what I mean. :-)

Cheers,
Frank

  How about the EPEL/Debian/Ubuntu packaging? That
> would certainly make life easier for everyone all around and we'd just 
> have to worry about the name of the GitHub org.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 
> On 10/20/2017 08:45 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On 10/20/2017 03:31 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote:
>>> Hi Oliver,
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2017 03:27 PM, Oliver Keeble wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>>> There is by the way another important issue with not being able to 
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> the word globus: it's in almost every library name in the toolkit. 
>>>>>> So if
>>>>>> we want to/must remove it from there too, we need a rebuild of each
>>>>>> globus-depending software product... It also could mean having all 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> products needing re-adoption into Fedora/EPEL and Debian.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it something that can be avoided?
>>>>
>>>> I think it can certainly be avoided. Globus may trademark the name 
>>>> (have they?)
>>>
>>> Yes, they have. See the bottom message on [1] and [2].
>>>
>>> [1]: http://toolkit.globus.org/toolkit/
>>>
>>> [2]: http://toolkit.globus.org/toolkit/contributions.html#Cobranding
>>>
>>
>> Although "Globus" is a trademark, the use of "Globus"/"globus" in the 
>> source code in file names, directory names, function, variable, etc. 
>> names and the names of compiled executables and libraries is a 
>> different thing, I believe.
>>
>> The source code contains "Globus"/"globus" everywhere but is licensed 
>> under an Open Source license, which in my eyes includes reuse as-is 
>> without prior changes, even for binaries, as the names for the 
>> binaries are determined by the Makefiles which are part of the source 
>> code.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
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